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        <description> &amp;lt;HTML&amp;gt;I am presently working on an evaluation of my school's Gemara and Mishna
curriculum.  The school is a modern orthodox elementary school.  Only the
boys learn Gemara.  They begin in grade 6.  One hour a day is dedicated to
the learning of Gemara.  I am looking for a list of skills necessary for
the student to be able to do, in order for him to learn Gemara.  Same for
Mishna.
If anyone has such a list, it would give me a jump start, and help me
greatly with my review of the Mishna and Gemara curriculum. Thank you.
                                        
Aviva Wasser&amp;lt;/HTML&amp;gt;</description>
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            <title>Centrality of Talmud study</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ &lt;HTML&gt;Please excuse the length of this response.<br />
You ask:<br />
 Why has Gemara become the centerpiece (oftentimes to the exclusion of all<br />
else) of higher education in the religious world?<br />
 <br />
The talmudic scheme of education (le'olam yeshaleish adam middotav, etc.)<br />
recommends equal portions of Mikra, Mishna and Gemara. This prescription<br />
was intended for, and suited, an agrarian society. Farmers work hard, but<br />
only during daylight hours--which gives them ample daily study time, and<br />
they work seasonally--which frees them for extensive study during the<br />
agriculturally fallow months, which happen to be Elul and Adar--hence<br />
their selection as yarhei kalla.<br />
This was fine as long as most Jews were farmers.<br />
This situation changed beginning with the Arab conquest of Persia (Bavel,<br />
the largest concentration of Jews in the world) in the 8th century. In<br />
order to encourage the native Zoroastrians to convert to Islam (they could<br />
not be forcibly converted because, like Jews and Christians, they were<br />
&quot;people of the book&quot; and granted religious freedom by the Qur'an), the<br />
Arabs strictly limited land ownership to Muslims. The Persians converted<br />
to keep their land, the Jews gave up their land, moved into the cities and<br />
became merchants.<br />
They were now confronted with the predicament of having a traditional<br />
threefold curriculum with only one-third the time available previously for<br />
study.<br />
Their dilemma was addressed to Rav Natronai Gaon in the form of a she'elah<br />
lehalakhah: Should they continue to study Mikra, Mishnah and Gemara<br />
equally in spite of the severe restrictions now placed upon their leisure<br />
time? His response, in the form of a teshuvah (appearing in Otzar haGeonim<br />
ed. Lyk) was to revise the curriculum so that all available study time<br />
would be focused on one subject. The question was: Which one? He replied<br />
that the study of Mikra excluded both Mishnah and Gemara, and that of<br />
Mishnah incorporated some Mikra but still excluded Gemara. The study of<br />
Gemara, on the other hand, incorporated both Mikra and Mishnah, so that is<br />
what he recommended.<br />
In addition, he cited a homily based on the verse in Kohelet: &quot;kol<br />
ha-nehalim holkhim el ha-yam,&quot; declaring Mikra and Mishnah to be &quot;nehalim&quot;<br />
and the gemara a &quot;yam&quot; which is surely amongst the earliest references or<br />
allusions to &quot;yam ha-talmud.&quot;<br />
This means that the total concentration on Talmud was a &quot;hora'at sha`ah.&quot;<br />
The proof is that if we look at the &quot;Golden Age,&quot; a period in which the<br />
Jews who were the direct heirs of the communities of Bavel recovered the<br />
ample leisure time they had previously lost, we see that, in general, they<br />
reverted back to the original curriculum studying not only Gemara but also<br />
Mikra and (more to the point!) Mishnah.<br />
This was not universal, however, as testified to by references in Ibn<br />
Jannah's &quot;Sefer haRikmah&quot; to the &quot;ba`alei halakah veTalmud&quot; who disparaged<br />
the study of Hebrew grammar and philology, calling it &quot;almost heretical,&quot;<br />
and to a comparable reference in the commentary of Rabbi Yosef Kara (of<br />
Northern France) in which he refers to halakhists and Talmudists who &quot;make<br />
fun of peshat.&quot;<br />
 <br />
I've already written too much, so I'll close with the observation that<br />
Rabbi Eliach's modest proposal for a perek Tanakh yomi would bring us much<br />
closer to what Hazal originally intended for us to study, than does the<br />
current preoccupation--bordering on obsession--with Talmud.<br />
 <br />
Moshe&lt;/HTML&gt;]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Moshe Sokolow</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Mishna and Gemara skills</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ &lt;HTML&gt;I am presently working on an evaluation of my school's Gemara and Mishna<br />
curriculum.  The school is a modern orthodox elementary school.  Only the<br />
boys learn Gemara.  They begin in grade 6.  One hour a day is dedicated to<br />
the learning of Gemara.  I am looking for a list of skills necessary for<br />
the student to be able to do, in order for him to learn Gemara.  Same for<br />
Mishna.<br />
If anyone has such a list, it would give me a jump start, and help me<br />
greatly with my review of the Mishna and Gemara curriculum. Thank you.<br />
                                        <br />
Aviva Wasser&lt;/HTML&gt;]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Aviva Wasser</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 1994 22:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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